What happened to KILLpRObots?

The forum associated with it has disappeared. My friend's space there, together with the domain itself, has expired.

But that did not mean KPB was a failure. It wasn't. KPB helped the pRO GMs in the effort in countering bots, by giving them information, programs, and suggestions.

Stay tuned to this place for the reintroduction of KillpRObots. I'll give you a hint as to what happened to it.

It finally got the official support it needed.

In the end, the law prevails

When we last left the bot debate, it was clear they were doing it to discredit all anti-botting initiatives and to dissuade Level-Up from ever acting against it.

Whatever they were trying certainly was doomed to fail.

For one, Waukeen, like me, is hellbent on destroying this pest that has infected Ragnarok for over four years. That's despite him being a botter once.

Another, I was merely playing along in their play of debate at why botters hold pRO together and that their removal would spell doom for RO. Almost all their points were refuted, yet they still insist on things. It didn't save them from being banned for botting advocacy.

As a result, Legato and his puppet account yoh_asakura, and Pax Lucis have been permanently banned (and will eventually become Persona non Grata) from the ragnaboards for their incurable and foolish advocacy of botting. Sure, they deny advocating bots, but with their rabid criticism (of which many are negative, dumbfounded and baseless, like their adherence to Shiela Paul's admission-- which BTW is now nullified due to recent events Level-Up has made) and their general put-down attitudes towards any sign of enforcement... like with the Midgard Police, makes them obvious they weren't just looking for a friendly (which I highly doubt) debate... they were ensuring the future of the botters.

I'm sure there are more posters worthy of permanent banning due to advocacy of bots. But one would wonder... Why? Why defend these lawless elements? Despite the debate nature, the policy about botting is one of the rules considered dogma; unquestionable and absolute. Despite LU's lack of enforcement regarding that rule, it didn't mean they were consenting usage of bots. They should've removed that from the rules if it were so, but they never did. Which is good, considering lots of MMO companies will take advantage of that, and will hasten their demise.

Pax may now argue it was a debate and no advocacy was in it. But I've seen his advocacy OUTSIDE his posts. Same with Legato. That debate was made for me to gague how honest they were in regards that they were merely debating. You'ld be surprised to know how much it revealed about them.

You are with the future or you are against it. The future of order, a future without bots, and with happy and law-abiding players is being made. I, and many other people who still believe in the future of Ragnarok, will not let these scum survive.

The "whose are you" post!

Influenced by Morrigan's post, I've decided to take this for a spin...

You Are 70% Evil

You are very evil. And you're too evil to care. Those who love you probably also fear you. A lot.

How Evil Are You?

The Dante's Inferno Test has sent you to Purgatory!
Here is how you matched up against all the levels:

Level	Score
Purgatory (Repenting Believers)	Very High
Level 1 - Limbo (Virtuous Non-Believers)	Very Low
Level 2 (Lustful)	Low
Level 3 (Gluttonous)	Moderate
Level 4 (Prodigal and Avaricious)	Low
Level 5 (Wrathful and Gloomy)	Very High
Level 6 - The City of Dis (Heretics)	Very Low
Level 7 (Violent)	Low
Level 8- the Malebolge (Fraudulent, Malicious, Panderers)	High
Level 9 - Cocytus (Treacherous)	Moderate

Take the Dante's Inferno Hell Test

You Are the Super Ego

While some people may think first and act later... you often don't act at all. You rather be safe than sorry, and you take ethics pretty seriously. Like everyone, you have some pretty crazy desires. But unlike everyone, you restrain yourself. You have high standards for your own behavior. And you happily exceed them.

Are You Id, Ego, or Superego?

You Are the Index Finger

You are ambitious, driven, and capable. You aren't afraid to take responsibility for your actions - or place the blame on whoever deserves it. You are honest, free thinking, and objective. You see things in your own way - and you aren't afraid to let everyone know about it. You get along well with: The Thumb Stay away from: The Ring Finger

What Finger Are You?

You Are a Realist

You don't see the glass as half empty or half full. You see what's exactly in the glass. You never try to make a bad situation seem better than it is... But you also never sabotage any good things you have going on. You are brutally honest in your assessments of situations - and this always seems to help you cope.

Are You An Optimist or Pessimist?

You Have Your Emotions in Check

You are an incredibly stable and happy person. Ever consider being a therapist? You have figured out how to keep a positive outlook, no matter what. You don't have an easier life than anyone else. You just have figured things out a little more.

Can You Keep Your Emotions in Check?

You Are Destined to Rule the World

You have the makings of a very evil dictator... Which is both kind of cool and kind of scary! Will you rule the world? Maybe. Maybe not. But at least you know that you could.

Are You Destined For World Domination?

You are a PC

You're practical, thrifty, and able to do almost anything. Appearances and trends aren't important to you. You just like to get the job done.

Are You a Mac or a PC?

You Are 54% Perfectionist

No one would call you a perfectionist, but you definitely have a side of you that strives to be perfect. Try to see your mistakes as learning experiences, and don't be so hard on yourself when you screw up!

Are You a Perfectionist?

Your Pride Quotient: 32%

You're a little prideful, but nothing out of the norm. Like everyone, you enjoy attention. But you're also good at sharing the spotlight!

How Much Pride Do You Have?

You Are 77% Grown Up, 23% Kid

Congratulations, you are definitely quite emotionally mature. Although you have your moments of moodiness, you're usually stable and level headed.

How Emotionally Mature Are You?

You Are Wolverine

Small but fierce, you're a great fighter. Watch out! You are often you're own greatest enemy. Powers: Adamantium claws, keen senses, the ability to heal quickly

Which of the X-Men Are You?

Your Power Level is: 76%

You're a very powerful person, and you know that all of your power comes from within. Keep on doing what you're doing, and you'll reach your goals.

How Powerful Are You?

Hmm... That looks a lot too much for a decent post. That will be all for now.

Rant Part Deux

Kapag kinalaban mo ang batas, kahit anong talino mo, kahit anong kisig mo, ikaw pa rin ang talo. (When you rebel against the law, desipite your intelligence, despite all your strength, you're still the loser.)

How many people have you met are arrogant enough to claim botters keep pRO alive? How many of these claim that pRO owes its existence to botters?

There may be a lot, but it is time to bring back the correct figures.

Studying an existing iRO with staunch anti-botting policy or zero botting, yes, there is a few amount of players, but iRO's situation is different; disgruntled players, boring content, rude community, and melancholy, isn't something that makes an active server.

So many people have accused me of being cruel to the RO franchise. I, as someone claims, would be the cause of RO's demise, because of impending removal of bots.

Excuse me, but that reeks of sourgraping. For now, botters think I am a mere joke or a dog that doesn't bite. My bite doesn't come from my mouth. It comes from what will happen.

And as with awhile ago, the reality that bots will no longer be a part of RO sets in, the sourgraping comes. The doomsday cultists come. The threats pour in.

They do this until bots somehow comes back to RO.

Sono teidou ka? Is this all what you know to do? Indeed, unevolved and primitive thinking! Selfish and inconsiderate! Anarchist and self-centered!

RO, for all its old-school graphics, still has a charm, unmatched by even the most modern of games. It will draw people to come back for as long as the conditions are right, and the playing environment is balanced.

Those who desperately argue and rationalize their crime, the crime of using bots and/or promoting people to use bots, will find no refuge in the advancing future, the law, and karma, who knows the true nature of their hearts. My words may be a joke to these people, but karma gets their man every single time, without fail.

If you cannot adapt with the future of eventual order, you have no place in it.

When one must sin to survive... hah!

During the holy weeks, I took a vacation where I mostly meditated.

After the holy week, I decided to go back and meditate again, following the favorable conditions, and the fact that I can afford it.

But when I went back to duty... ugh.

First, there were people who were playing the dating game with me. This was already told to me by colleague Nirvelli, and I'm disgusted by this.

Now this.

It seems that pRO is fitted with yet another antibot feature. How I knew this?

My friends told me that there's a very strange absence of bots serverwide. To my pleasant surprise.

Until I visited the ragnaboards and went on with my usual rounds.

Typically, a botter, with a foreign IP, posted "a world without bots"

IRO is dead(serious) about hunting down and banning botscheck out the end result:http://forums.roempire.com/showthread.php?t=144995

What is this lunatic thinking? Or more specifically, what powerful drug has he been smoking to come up with such conclusion?!

This is an example of pathetic assumptions based solely on personal desires. On top of promoting to break the rules.

And Pax Lucis, who apparently is a warfreak, debated with me to the very end. Until moderator Sakura, speaking through Nirvelli, told to break it up.

Other moderators don't really trust Pax and his intentions. My colleagues tell me he too is a botter... While I cannot prove this immediately, I should at least state this, because the circumstances covering his unusual disapproval against Level-Up enforcing the rules; especially those in regards to botting.

Was his argument "Look at the situation! If you kill the bots, there will be nothing left in Ragnarok! These botters will never return to RO anymore! You cannot press for a move to remove all bots this late! The game will die if you destroy all bots!" valid, or mere sourgraping following recent actions?

True enough, he tried very hard, using logic, realism, and occasional fault-finding to further his argument. But it was an argument doomed to fail right from the start. When you're challenging policies, policies not even those in authority are immune to, by default, those who are against it always loses.

He argues how can a policy be valid when no one follows/enforces it? It will always remain a valid policy. People may ignore or not implement such policies, but it will never change the fact that it is a policy indeed. Just because the bible had rules we don't follow doesn't mean those rules don't apply to us anymore, merely because we don't recognize it as rules. Guess what, they STILL are rules! And it still applies!

Only those who authored a policy/rule can change them. In an official ceremony and in an official word.

Why is this world filled with fools; greedy fools who will do everything and anything to maintain their twisted lifestyle? To boot, these mortals, who will never bring their ill-gotten fame, levels and glamor to their graves, have the nerves with a sharp tounge.

And they wondered why there are people who do not like humanity at all. They'll never understand because they are the ones benefitting from it.

This is one of my arguments that rings true not only in Ragnarok, but in real life as well...

Allow yourselves to be used by evil, or a tool of evil, and you yourselves commit a crime. When you consciously know the evils behind it, yet do it, without regret, that's graver than grave.

Being an accessory to a crime may give you less liability, but you still have commited a crime.

This quote of mine may sound like Martial Law, but sadly, this is true.

The question is not about respect. Whether you like the guts of the enforcer or not, rules are to be followed, or consequences will happen, implied or otherwise.

The enforcer implementing the rules should be followed at all times, especially when you are on their territory. Resistance equates to a less-than-pleasant experience.

And when you claim total victory under questionable circumstances, you become less than a man. You become a crab who only cares for one's own pride, and becoming righteous, even when you are in no position to do so.

Like this.

Eh... 12:45am. I'm leaving this thread. Pax Lucis you can finish it off. One last thing.Geonitz, you know you lost this match. You know who you remind me of? sudius. sudius was a very arrogant and stubborn/constant TS in the Gunslinger Section who refused to give up. But eventually, sudius did give up and stopped posting. Only there it wasn't Pax Lucis and I, it was Yralyn and I.'Till we meet again.

He spoke a lot of bot advocacy, by the way. Want proof? Here's a glaring one.

No Geonitz, you are asserting what YOU believe. I don't think that "people must use bots for the game to survive". I think that people must use bots for the game to have real lives! I want you guys to look at Geonitz's blog and tell me what you think. In my opinion, it's pretty paranoid if you ask me. He talks about how he hates the human race?

Paranoid? Me hating the human race? It has probable cause, if any, but this words will bring you right back to reality.

A person having a real life by using bots? No matter what you say, no matter how you rationalize, it's never an excuse to break what is considered policy, moral or otherwise.

Sad isn't it?

It seems that the grim reaper of the Ragnaboards will have a lot of bounty later on.

Will it be me? Will it be one of my colleagues? It'll be easy to tell.

In ending, there's a policy before that prohibited challenging rules that are set, many of these which are dogma. I should have that rule reinstated.